|Posted by biofield on January 29, 2011 at 4:26 AM|
In support of the BC Raw Milk Defense Fund Movie Fundraiser on Feb.6, 2011 I arranged the following interview between White Rock's Awaken to You Radio station and Alice Jongerden, former agister of Chilliwack's Home on the Range (HOTR) Dairy cooperative.
January 27 , 2011 AWAKEN TO YOU RADIO INTERVIEW - A rough and not literal transcription and interpretation by Conscious Media consultant Raoul Bedi of the Vedic Harmony Centre (www.biofield.ca ) , Purveyor of Conscious Media Products, Events and Green Solutions.
For the exact verbal recording please go to :
Chilliwack Dairy Farmer and Agister Alice Jongerden Interviewed by Cindy Poole – 56 min. Interview .
Interviewer Introduction : Today we have the founder of a 450 member Fresh Milk cooperative in Chilliwack ,BC speaking with us. It has recently been under attack by the Fraser Health authority. But Alice and the members-at-large are fighting back in the BC Supreme Court.
We must all do our own research . We are all encouraged to get out there and research the truth for ourselves . We have to learn to discern what is right for us ?
We should not just believe school systems and health care systems as this often represents only a one sided or incomplete viewpoint . (The audience is encouraged to ) start by asking basic questions : What is the difference between pasteurized , homogenized and raw milk ? What is raw milk ? What is all the fear about it ? Don't take anything for granted or as a given.
Alice Jongerden is making a serious Human Rights enquiry on behalf of all of us. Canadians deserve the freedom to choose between pasteurized and unpasteurized dairy products of all forms .
We must make choices for ourselves based on all the information available and not just bits and pieces of information. Alice says that these are our "human rights".
"Every Canadian deserves the freedom to choose pasteurized and unpasteurized milk for themselves".
Alice may also talk about her vision for community building and cooperative living and shareholding .
Question : Thank you for awakening us to the truth about Raw Milk ! For how long have you drank Raw a.k.a FRESH a.k.a REAL milk ? How did you get started ?
Alice : I grew up on a dairy farm. Everybody we knew drank it . So Real Milk has been a part of my life all my life .
"How come you all look so healthy and vibrant ?" was a question I frequently heard, while growing up, from others not habituated to drinking farm fresh milk. I moved away as an adult and missed it . I could not find it anywhere in BC, having not grown up in this province.
In 2005 I had an acre and decided to get a small cow for the benefit of my family (5 children) . It got sick/old so we purchased a new commercial milk producing cow, who had just had a baby, that produced 7 gallons per day . It was just a whole lot of milk. We could not use it all and did not want to waste it's precious milk. We knew we could not sell it as there are laws that restrict the sale of "fresh milk".
We initially shared milk with our neighbours but still had too much. A lot of people do that .
I remembered someone in the city who had made an enquiry about Raw Milk a year earlier so I decided to finally followup with him . The urban contact's referrals created so much interest that we suddenly needed to buy a 2nd cow. There is nothing intuitively wrong (or illegal) with milking a cow and drinking milk and sharing it with friends, neighbours and family who co-own the cow . And so the first seeds of the co-op were planted and beginning to sprout.
Alice later asked a BC judge :
"At what point did it become illegal ? There is nothing wrong with owning a cow. There is NOTHING wrong with joint ownership ?And there is nothing illegal about milking a cow ?!" At first a judge could not provide an intelligent answer.
But in 2008/9 new more aggressive BC regulation made raw milk a health hazard - a year after we had started our coop in 2007- and a much more serious offence.
Initially when the regulary authority gave us a "cease and desist" order in the summer of 2008 which we ignored it as conventional Dairy marketing rules should not apply since it was all private property from the very beginning . Our milk was never for commercial sale.
But the newer health hazard designations and regulations interfere even with private contracts as no person can knowingly supply a substance causing a health hazard. And the penalties in terms of fines and jail time are now exponentially higher .
The authorities came out to our farm in December 2008 and we were pulled into court in February 2009 .
Interviewer : "Why is there so much fear around milk ? "
Is a business license required for farmers ? Do you have one ?
Alice : We obtained a Business number and GST number so that the government knows what we are doing at the farm. Technically it is not required for a farmer to do so because it was an individual contract. The concept of the herdshare is not just about a group of people who get together.
There was an individual private contract between each herdshare member with (former) agister Alice J. to take care of their jointly owned cow(s) on the owner's behalf .
It is not a business within the public domain . It is simply "private contracting".
Q: Do people buy a cow and bring it to your farm ?
A: Not exactly.
On the agister's relationship to shareholder/
Private contract as Agister – We find cows for the coop members still but a group of 21 coop members actually and jointly buys a new cow.
The Agister then takes care of the cow for them .We Split milk "profits,shares or dividends" between all co-op members equally and/or by proportion of shares held .
Q: These are people who privately own the cow and want to drink the milk and the government is saying that people can not drink the milk from their cow ? Does every province have a different rule when it comes to drinking raw milk?
A : Yes (to the first question). No to the second question.
A Judge made an altogether different ruling (so far ) in Ontario. In the ruling of January 2010 The Private Enterprise exemption was considered to be sufficient proof to acquit raw dairy farmer/agister Mike Schmidt but the Ontario government (as predicted ) still fights the issue tooth and nail. Provincial basic laws about selling milk are the same across the country i.e that all milk for sale must be pasteurized at a central plant according to specified times and temperature standards . The honourable Ontario judge determined that the Glencolton ,Ontario Dairy Farm's milk is to be legally considered outside of this system of prohibition in the January 2010 due to its cooperative shareholder nature .
After observing the precedent set in Ontario courts, the BC government officials shrewdly looked for an alternate way to shut down the Chilliwack,BC raw dairy coop even though there had not been any complaints or problems . The BC government's intention was never about the public's health, interest or greater good or even so-called community "safety" .
Alice refers people to the internet and the website Www.bovine.wordpress.com or to www.homeontherangefarms.com for more details on the legalities and subtle nuances of the situation and the government's logic for this particular attack on our freedoms.
Alice summarizes that the main point and focus of this judicial episode is that we should understand how quickly our government can put a new law into effect without warning or discussion. It could be in any area of our food freedoms / personal decisions/choices/ or even general civil liberties . If people are not aware of the changes , the government can enforce anything "one day when it suits them"
Q: Do you mean the BC government or the Fraser Health authority ?
A: That is a good question .
The Fraser Health Authority is not same entity as the BC government . It has little or no accountability . It is a completely separate entity .
Interviewer : Why is there so much fear about Raw Milk (from the Government and/or the General Public ) ?
In my own recent research I find that there is nothing to be afraid of ? !!!
Alice : Fear mongering is a tactic used . It is taught from an early age in Canada and for a long time that raw milk is synonymous with illness. Money from the dairy industry manipulates the situation almost entirely. It is a complete Canadian monopoly . There are almost 15000 members. The milk Marketing board ensures no competition and totally controls all aspects.
It puts out continual fear-based messages of illness. As long as people are uninformed and afraid it is easy to control them (and will not want to consume fresh milk) . These double standards do not apply to fresh juices, honey, or bee pollen . There is no prohibition in effect. The statistics do not support the singling out of (raw ) milk for harsher controls and testing over other food. There is no higher problem/risk in its production by a trained professional or raw dairy farmer .
There is no prohibition for unpasteurized honey. In the case of raw milk it is a simple control issue.
Many illnesses have resulted from pasteurized milk. 150 000 people became sick in Chicago in March 1985. In 1993 , 45 in Illinois became ill in 1993 in New Jersey 93 became ill from pasteurized milk in the year 2000 . The BC Government takes a one-sided look at the risk of raw milk but omits or ignores such data when it comes from situations involving pasteurization or vaccination . They don't put out all the facts .
The government talks about the century old threat of TB/Brucellosis. But nowadays,TB/Brucellosis are tested for yearly in all raw dairy cows used. The technology is in place for constantly monitoring the health of the cows. It is very easily done.
The Chilliwack raw dairy tested its cows and their daily milk products/excretions to Washington state standards. We look at somatic cell counts to detect udder infection (monthly test) . If it is high the farmer can choose to dump the milk. THE TECHNOLOGY IS THERE !
Q: Did the Fraser Health authority come and do specific tests or were they only acting from some hypothesis about some theoretical danger ?
A: The Fraser Health authority did not do proper tests. Only the basic phosphatase test was done to determine if the milk is raw or sufficiently pasteurized . If it is raw then the goverment/health authority automatically assumes it is a health hazard and no further tests are deemed to be necessary.
A misleading test was performed at a depot location i.e a Milk sample was 10 days old and a test was done at a 6 deg. Celsius Temperature . The law states that it should be 4 degrees C when the test must be done and within a few hours of the milking of the cow otherwise the test results are void . Higher bacterial colony forming units are often found in Raw Milk. This does not mean the milk is bad as most of the bacteria there are beneficial.
But the Fraser Health authority claims (or wrongly interprets their test results to say) that there was fecal contamination? E-coli were supposedly found .These are false conclusions due to an incorrect testing procedure. The Fraser Valley Health Board did not follow the legal spelled out process for testing and interpreting results. Representatives of "Home on the Range" found this out after making a "Freedom of Information" request for the relevant government documents . Dealing with the government's incompetence and/or deliberate manipulation (or both ) has been "frustrating" .
HOTRF did monthly tests of Somatic cell counts and other factors to monitor potential illness or bacterial infection/contamination of milk .
HOTRF did the required monthly tests (again to Washington state standards since the BC government refuses to participate in a mature dialog/testing process) for E.Coli , Salmonella, Campylobacter and Listerosis.
Ultimately in a situation like this the small farm approach (vs. the large commercial scale size farm) makes a big difference for the good and safety of the product.
Plus the cows get much more personal attention on a small farm. The farmer is very aware of all his/her cows. This acts as a great early warning system of sorts. If you have over 100 cows you will never be able to have that kind of personal touch .
But moving beyond the common denominator of illness , the cows are not only not sick but amazingly healthy beyond average expectations because they are grass fed and because the small herd farmer tends to know each of his /her cows intimately. Plus the cows are treated as humanely as possible and still allowed to roam in the sunshine freely and have access to pasture for some portion of the day, almost the entire year , like in traditional times.
To put it simply : As long as cows are healthy and fed healthy food , they will produce healthy milk.
These aspects are not considered to be important in conventional commercial farming, but they are very important to us.
Q: So in a farming cooperative you tend to feed the cows more naturally ?
A: Yes. The cows are almost 100% grass fed except for a small amount of certified organic grain at milking times. In winter we feed a small amount of hay as well because fresh grass may not be available. And we hope to eventually phase out even the small amount of grain currently used.
Cows are classified as ruminant animals . This means that modern grain substitutes for grass feeding are less than ideal . These substitutes negatively impact bacteria levels (by increasing them ) in the cows stomach and intestines which can increase the danger and possibility of the bacterial contamination of the milk. Cows were never meant to be eating grain.
So , to repeat, being grass fed it very important to the health of the cow and the safety of the milk.
Q: What about Vitamins and Minerals in pasteurized milk ?
Why are they adding that ? What is the difference between "fortified" milk and raw milk ?
A: Pasteurized milk is considered to be dead milk . Apart from lacking enzymes and friendly bacteria , the milk is nutritionally inferior in terms of vitamins and minerals and hence may require artificial supplementation .
The raw milk has the active bacteria which is very important.
The goal of a trained raw dairy farmer ,especially from the biodynamic farming tradition, is to try to simulate conditions where the cows live as naturally as possible and "the way life was meant to be " . The cows are not pushed to their limits in terms of milk production either. The raw dairy farmer is satisfied with the "natural and normal milk production" of the grass-fed cow without resorting to artificial ,synthetic and hormone-inducing drugs .
Pushing the cow to its limits in terms of milk production, decreases the overall health and vitality of the cow and greatly shortens its lifespan.
Secondly, in large scale commercial farming , the cream is initially separated out from the fresh milk, in the process of moving the milk from tank to jug. Then some of the fat and extra vitamins are unnaturally added back later in the form of reconstituted fat globules. The problem is that this changes the chemistry and consistency of the milk in the process.
Many of the crucial natural and nourishing components of the milk have been permanently altered by then.
This may contribute to the lactose intolerance many people in modern society experience and why many people have disavowed pasteurized milk altogether.
To repeat : Cows grazing on live grasses and free roaming on pasture, while soaking up the sunshine, will naturally produce enough vitamins like Vitamin D (so there is no need for fortification !) minerals, and healthy enzymes and bacteria in the cow, unlike the "dead milk" produced from cows raised indoors through conventional farming methods.
Hence the need for synthetic additives in processed milk.
Q: It is really important important that people learn this information. I don't think most people understand this point. You are doing a remarkable job by increasing awareness about this process and these issues.
So to repeat (for emphasis) the original question:
If I have a farm and own a cow I am not allowed to drink my own milk ?
A: No, not in BC at least.
By escalating the classification of raw milk production and distribution "with the intention to consume " to a "health hazard " , BC law has now made it a "serious crime" as per the "Public Health Act . A farmer is virtually a criminal for directly consuming his own cow's milk !
Q: What about other animals that produce milk ? What about goats, sheep , yak and reindeer ?
A: That is an interesting point and reemphasizes the fact about who is really behind the "anti-raw dairy" campaign.
Goat milk is not regulated.
Goat milk farmers are not required to submit to any "marketing boards" . Each farmer individually develops their own private supplier/consumer contract i.e whether it be an individual or a large supermarket like " Save On Foods" . There is no monopoly or competition threat perceived in the same way as raw dairy is versus pasteurized dairy. Some goat milk farmers sell it as "pet food" ,cosmetics or simply at the gate only and some even sell it openly .
It is an entirely different market .
It is not perceived as stepping on anyone's toes.
The pasteurized dairy industry perceives a threat from these small private herdshares and coops because they want to retain 100% market control . So there is always a push to enforce each and every rule.
Some areas of the milk marketing act mention other animals such as sheep , goats and non-cow mammals. But many areas of the act do not. So it is OK to milk a Buffalo and drink it (raw ).
As an interesting side point, in the BC news, we learned that the provincial meat plants do not test for E.Coli in meat UNLESS someone gets sick. This is an interesting contradiction .
That is why people join cooperatives and desire directly community involvement. So that they have a personal and direct sense and experience of the quality of the food produced and the integrity of the farmer's methods. The logic being that if the farmer eats what he produces he or she will do the best he or she can and not cut corners or minimize quality , care or nutrition for the animals, plants or soil. " I feel safe, and I can feed my children your produce, if I see you consume what you produce" .
The consumers and coop members get to have "hands-on " experience milking and feeding the cows, and "taking part in the action" happening at the farm. They can "look the farmer in the eye" so to speak. They get the opportunity to learn about where there food comes from. So the food cooperative process really involves a whole lot more than simply consuming milk. It is a complete experience on many levels.
The coop member /consumer gets to observe the cleanliness ,hygiene and overall standards of the operation. Within a cowshare itself the overall "traceability is very important if not fabulous" . Because the cooperative farm operates at a small scale you know where the milk is, you know who has it, and you can stop it's production in an instant if you ever needed to . If there was something you were unsure about and wanted to test it before sending it out it is immediately available to do so !If there is a problem you can catch it quickly and temporarily stop the production.
Traceability is an important concept for government regulators. Having a direct relationship with your farmer is the ultimate form of traceability. You have a direct relationship with the people consuming the milk and they have that direct relationship with the farmer and the farm and feel a part of that .
Q:This is really fantastic because a lot of youth have never been on farms. They don't go to farms every and don't have a clue what happens there.
A: We have had many fun experiences with members who bring their kids for the first time. The farm experience "lights up the eyes" of urban youth . They have never been so close to a cow to see where milk originates from. They think it originates from a Save-on , Supermarket or Superstore and always comes in a plastic
It is a really fun experience for urban youth to spend a day working on a farm. Alice's dream includes educating people about small farm sustainabilty and possibilities. If we do not do this now ,where will our food security come from in the future ? 20 years from now what will we be eating ?
Interviewer: Cindy emphasizes that this is a perfect and concrete example of "giving our power away " which is at its core essence contrary to all New Thought and New Age teachings. At the essence, it is a question of "awareness" . I commend you for doing this service. I want people to know that they can go to your website and make a donation to support your cause . I encourage people to do that .
Q: Please talk a little about your vision for farming and community ? Can you please share your dream with us ?
A: We must know what we are receiving from the Supermarket. We must educate and inform ourselves continuously. If we don't educate people now there will be nothing left.
We must know and be more conscious about what goes into our bodies.
Originally my dream was just to have one cow and enjoy that on our one acre of property. Now it has evolved into a dream where others can do the same thing.
Alice would like to make it as easy as possible for other people with even a small amount of acreage to enjoy the benefits of a milk-producing cow. By properly educating themselves and working hard it can be a financially sustainable proposition.
Alice would like to educate potential farmers on how to make their products ,whether animal or plant-based , as nutritionally beneficial as possible. People are encouraged to grow as much of their own food as possible and/or help somebody nearby to do it. And it all very duplicatable. The more people we can teach , the more they can eventually teach this to every-growing numbers of people. We must learn all aspects of a sustainable farm. The work of Joel Salatin is recommended as someone with doable, effective and diverse farm methods on big or small land plots.
So if you have bit of property with grass you can try and do this too. Because just to have the freedom to grow your own food without being interrupted is very important even if you are only a small farmer.
Next week Mike Schmidt will speak on Awaken to You Radio (Please see the blog updates for February 2011) . He is a dynamic speaker with a wealth of information. He will speak on a Vision of Sustainable Dairy and Food production for Canada in the 21st Century .
Alice would like to teach the cowshare concept to others and help to make it financially viable for them as well while following the higher standards of organic and biodynamic farming to create healthy food .
Q: So are you looking for a group of people buy land together ?
A: With this knowledge different directions are possible i.e in terms of coop or commercial farming and all need to be explored as an antidote to the monoculture/corporate farming practices being forced on us.
At its most basic level 4 families can share a cow , a few goats or sheep on a plot of land. In this modern age, it is still possible to be a little individualistic and still enjoy the security of home-grown food. So Alice would like there to be a choice of small scale or large scale farming methods. Large scale farming methods will meet the potential huge demands of the city for organic and local food in the future . Mike Schmidt will create courses to teach us how to do that as consciously as possible.
Even many vegetarians and vegans ,who previously shunned pasteurized milk and even all forms of dairy products, have embraced raw milk for its healthy fats and oils and nutritional benefits (and that they can not easily get elsewhere) once they are satisfied that the animals have been treated humanely.
We must go back to our roots and rekindle the passion our forefathers had for working with their hands and with the dirt and feeding themselves directly from the land. This common sense attitude is no longer taught in most urban school environments. We need to relearn how to live more directly off the land.
Alice emphasizes that whatever she discusses in today's interview is what she USED (despite the present tense being occasionally used when making explanations ) to do before the December 2010 BC court order against Home on the Range farms to cease and desist the production and distribution of unpasteurized milk only to private cooperative members and shareholders.
Q: At your farm do you milk by hand ?
Some Specifics About the Unique Milking and Handling Procedure :
Alice used to milk by hand when she first started and only had a few cows. But it became too much work so machines are now used to milk into buckets.
Then the milk into stainless steel buckets is transferred to stainless steel containers through filters and directly into glass jars. In less than 2 hours it is cooled to less than 4 degrees Celsius. This parallels thesafety standards of the state of Washington where Raw Milk is permitted and regulated since 1949 .
It is hard to describe unless you see it .
The machines milk 2 cows at a time , and then ideally the milk is "on ice" in 10 minutes and ready to go. It is a very elegant system .
Q: Do you have any final thoughts you would like to share with our listeners ?
Alice Jongerden's Final thoughts :
The issue is not just about "Milk Freedom" . The issue is about freedom of all foods. It is important for everyone to get the word out .
Laws are quickly created and placed and then enforced without our prior knowledge and discussion. We should inform ourselves of the issues constantly so that we are not surprised and caught off guard when our freedoms are taken away.
We must do this battle together. Thank you for all the efforts of all the coop members and members of the public who work tirelessly to keep abreast of the issues . We could not succeed without YOU .
Interviewer Cindy: We need to open our hearts and minds to receive this information and make the best use of it . This is our time.
Alice: I will continue to support this work and fight for food freedom to the best of my ability acknowledging my own limitations in the process.
Interviewer: Alice's vision is fantastic and more and more of us are waking up to the truth of it .We need to relearn how to take care of ourselves and the planet.
We must encourage cooperation between farmers and community and between urban city dwellers and the surrounding countryside landowners.
This topic today is part of the overall topic and thrust of reconnecting with our roots and "going back to the land" . We must better take care of our land, our country and our birthright and , in so doing , we will better take care of ourselves.
Alice's fight is for all of us. And hopefully more and more will wake up to the truth of what she is saying and doing .
Awaken to You Radio wishes to provide opportunities for us to learn , grow and expand consciousness. Awaken to You Radio endeavours to hold a space for us while we grow into new understandings . We must start to be more discerning for ourselves. Every family member wants the best for their family and children in terms of health , nutrition and information, lifestyle, safety and comfort .
Concluding Comments from Raoul Bedi, Conscious media proprietor and Green events organizer ,author and transcriber and coordinator of this interview :
I am very grateful to Alice Jongerden for taking the time to share her personal journey with the online and conscious community in White Rock, Vancouver and beyond. I am thankful to Cindy Poole, proprietor of Awaking Heart Centre in White Rock, for immersing herself on short notice in a sustainable food topic slightly outside of the domain of her current business focus .
1. I was touched by the innocence of some of Cindy's questions. There are several reasons for this . We in Canada have been heavily indoctrinated about buying from malls and all kinds of "Superstores" . Nowadays the concept of a "coop" or a herdshare is mostly alien for your average urban dweller in Canada. The idea of knowing your producer ,whether for food or non-food items, is also absent in this indoctrination process.
Furthermore , we are indoctrinated ,as the author of "Medical Mafia" ,Guylaine Lanctot , writes ,"into the hysteria of the cheapest price". We are not supposed to ask questions about quality , labour standards (was child , forced or prison labour utilized in a product's production ) or ethics or how far did this product have to travel from its place of production to get to me the consumer ?
Several times Cindy mistakenly talked about Alice "selling milk". Alice Jongerden does not sell milk at all as it is illegal for her to do so . She simply used to manage the dividends of the coop members. But there is no common word in Canadian English for this process of sharing the fruits of their shared property.
So part of this reeducation process must begin with language and introduce new concepts of ownership to our youth . Somehow the corporate controlled media will have to be encouraged to present alternate models of ownership. This will probably happen last as advertisements tend to be made by corporations using old out-dated and unsustainable business models.
In traditional times the farmer's market was the heart and soul of a town . This was a place where you could easily meet your local farmer and supplier at least once per week .
These have gradually been phased out of large cities and replaced with 24 hour impersonal shopping malls and "superstores" .
So it is ironic that Alice must now work so hard to restore an ancient tradition of having a direct relationship with your supplier or farmer.
2.Specifically on the topic of raw milk production methods
This interview helped clarify to me that raw milk production methods have long graduated from being just a matter of "faith and luck " .
The modern raw dairy farmer is trained in both traditional methods of farming i.e grass feeding , and allowing the animals to roam and produce what they can naturally , but ALSO up-to-date and modern methods of biochemistry as it relates to hygiene ,and sanitation. He or she does whatever tests she can on-site. And ,at least , once per month sends some samples to a formal lab to test for various factors, agents and bacteria.
So we have to move the debate to a whole new level . What are the minimum standards ? How often are the tests needed ? Are there proactive measures that can be taken to minimize risks ? Beyond that does raising healthy , happy cows not only negate risks but make the food a superior superfood nutritious beyond all conventional norms and levels known or even possible ?
The frustrating thing is that the Canadian federal and provincial governments categorically refuse to debate these deeper and more serious issues and questions. They continually oversimply the problem by making blanket statements like "All Raw Milk is Unsafe" instead of calmly working cocreatively with the farmers to minimize risk and maximize benefits.
This is also frustrating because so much money has to still be wasted on legal actions and protections instead of on more enlightened , research and training of both the farmers and the public.
A possible short term solution is for all BC raw dairy farmers to follow the Washington state government guidelines for testing . But again it is not just about doing the minimum required. By using spiritual methods like from Permaculture and Anthroposophy the milk will not only be safe but highly nutritious and energizing on all levels of Body, Mind and Spirit .
So I repeat the debate needs to urgently be reframed from being a serious and unconditional "health hazard" to now being just a simple matter of technology, training , and certification to 'agreed-upon" and preferably universal standards. Or at the least to common standards of US state governments and the EU countries where Raw Milk has long since been permitted for either general commercial sale and/or as dividends in herdshares or cooperatives.
Given the Canadian government's obstinacy if not outright refusal to cooperate , raw dairy consumers and farmers alike must educate themselves and simultaneously educate the public about the current state of technology and safety and thus actively "demystify" the misinformation and overall "fear-mongering " being generated by the provincial governments and milk marketing boards.
3.Raw Dairy farmers need to join forces with Conscious Media and Positive Messaging experts to unmask the fear-based simplistic messaging emanating from the government , and to expose the contradictions and double standards of regulatory and law enforcement.
This positive messaging must be as continuous and unrelenting as the government's . Even experts in mind-control and psychology need to be involved to unravel the bureaucratic structures that utilize fear and power to wrongly enforce rules that benefit the few at the expense of the majority .
4.The concept of liability needs to be discussed and looked at in a fresh new way . Is there a way to limit liability to the farmer , the government and the insurance companies if the consumer is willing to take calculated or measured risks ?
It appears that Washington state has found a way to structure this . I am not sure if it is a specified dollar amount . In the auto insurance industry liability is limited in several ways: The purchaser signs off to specific exemptions i.e acts of war , minimal varying deductibles in the event of an accident and a maximum coverage in the event of death or serious and on-going injury. Such concepts could easily be borrowed from and applied in the food industry and especially to private cooperatives .
Because unlike in ancient times , most forms of commerce and exchange between individual will almost always necessitate some minimal kind of insurance coverage.
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